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	<title>Comments on: The Idol of Marketing (part 2)</title>
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		<title>By: Steven Kippel</title>
		<link>http://blog.ministrygrowers.com/2008/12/16/the-idol-of-marketing-part-2/#comment-9928</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Kippel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this is flawed. The Church shouldn't be attractive to the world because we look just like the world, we should be set apart from the world.

Why is football a proxy for religion? It's the cult religion, it's what the men talk about on Tuesday afternoon at work with the guys. It gives a common cause to each other. Problem with the Church is we don't talk about God with other men at work on Tuesday afternoon. We're so individualistic we don't think our faith is something we have in common ... it's a "personal faith" after all ...

What happened to faith? For some reason I think if the Church acted like the Church we wouldn't have to market to the unchurched.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this is flawed. The Church shouldn&#8217;t be attractive to the world because we look just like the world, we should be set apart from the world.</p>
<p>Why is football a proxy for religion? It&#8217;s the cult religion, it&#8217;s what the men talk about on Tuesday afternoon at work with the guys. It gives a common cause to each other. Problem with the Church is we don&#8217;t talk about God with other men at work on Tuesday afternoon. We&#8217;re so individualistic we don&#8217;t think our faith is something we have in common &#8230; it&#8217;s a &#8220;personal faith&#8221; after all &#8230;</p>
<p>What happened to faith? For some reason I think if the Church acted like the Church we wouldn&#8217;t have to market to the unchurched.</p>
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		<title>By: Intersected &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Idol of Marketing (part 2) at The Plow</title>
		<link>http://blog.ministrygrowers.com/2008/12/16/the-idol-of-marketing-part-2/#comment-4601</link>
		<dc:creator>Intersected &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Idol of Marketing (part 2) at The Plow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Idol of Marketing (part 2)  We trust more that we can get people to church with our flash then we trust that God will do what [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Idol of Marketing (part 2)  We trust more that we can get people to church with our flash then we trust that God will do what [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: rahul</title>
		<link>http://blog.ministrygrowers.com/2008/12/16/the-idol-of-marketing-part-2/#comment-4580</link>
		<dc:creator>rahul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So true! When that person comes to church they realize that it is truly about God...I pray. So, they think about all the advertising and it is all false! Relationships is what bring people to the church and here's the kicker...that's also what keeps them there! All the other marketing just brings that person once. Jesus was all about knowing and keeping others through love, hard commitments, and relationships. We should be marketing through our people because that is what is going to keep those who don't know Christ yet coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So true! When that person comes to church they realize that it is truly about God&#8230;I pray. So, they think about all the advertising and it is all false! Relationships is what bring people to the church and here&#8217;s the kicker&#8230;that&#8217;s also what keeps them there! All the other marketing just brings that person once. Jesus was all about knowing and keeping others through love, hard commitments, and relationships. We should be marketing through our people because that is what is going to keep those who don&#8217;t know Christ yet coming.</p>
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